Okay here's the deal, I'm punk rock blah blah blah The casualties are true musicians and speak the truth and are genious. I mean I could never think up lyrics like "PUNK ROCK LIVES ON RAWR RAWR RAWR IM SO PUNK BLAH BLAH BLAH" Not to mention Anti-flag are a bunch of sell-outs because I only care about their image and not their music. I mean really, think modern, who really listens to music anymore anyways? here's a clue kiddo eat my shit because I could probably name twice as many "underground" punk bands as you and I don't even listen to punk.