if you are into underground music, but don't proscribe to the socialist idiocy of "punk" politics that make the scene a very constricting and conformist place, espescially for a group that claims to be "open-minded" come visit the site that is the direct antithesis of phat mike's punkvoter.com. a site supported by bands such as gotham road and the dickies, as well as members from the misfits and the ramones: conservativepunk.com and if you're into the itellectual depantsing of elitist left-wing morons, love to walk around, and don't mind getting called really, really, nasty names then check out: protestwarrior.com except for ending slavery, nazism, fascism, and communism, WAR HAS NEVER SOLVED ANYTHING! peace love and whatever makes you smile...