no more of this shit. im not putting up with it. you can do what you want. i dont care. ive said it before, and ill just say it again. i do not care anymore. oh...and andy...there are plenty of things i would have, and still would love to say to you, but i wont. a) because im more polite than that and b) because i know mare likes you. hey, its at least someone. this does not involve you, and please dont get involved. mary and i will work this out on our own. i dont care if she goes to you, but just stay out of this. no more. laur