Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: hey... okay can i ask you a few questions? (its about christianity) Tanner says: go for it Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: okay well is it true that your only aloud to marry once? Tanner says: i believe traditionally yes Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: do you bileave in that? Tanner says: i don't know....in the case of a death go ahead but i think that people figuring out that they're not gonna be able to live together for 60 years without having an arguement would be better than a divorce Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: i sapose eh? Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: okay next question... Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: okay so how did you get introduced to it and how did you decidet that its hat you bileaved in? Tanner says: well my family did mostly just christmas/easter services in standard, but when i did confirmation tht helped me learn about it. but what made me decide that i believed in it is thinking it through and deciding that this makes a lot more sense than the world around me just happening by chance Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: really? why? Tanner says: well look around you. does it really make sense that everything around you (life, nature, that kind of thing) really just happened by chance? i mean all it would take is a few degrees in temperature swing and life on this planet would be nonexistant Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: thats true... but i dont know i guess to me that makes more sence than a god making everything. Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: i guess also if he is real he seems very unfair Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: hes mean Tanner says: how do you figure that? Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: well.... wait give me asec a have to burp this electronic baby Tanner says: lol Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: this stupid thing wont burp Tanner says: lol that's what you get for taking it the long weekend! Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: lol ya i know, anyways... well i think hes mean because it goes that if i dont bileave in him then ill go to hell, and if i do all these bad thing illgo to hell... and come gudgment day or when i die he gudges me? well why can't i gudge him? Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: and how am i saposed to know if hes real or not, what if i make a mistake? Tanner says: k (according to the bible and whatnot) all you have to do is believe, and you go to heaven Tanner says: that's it Tanner says: not knowing is kinda one of those catch 22 things. it's basically a leap of faith Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: i guess eh. damn it, wel if he is real ill give him props for being creative. Tanner says: lol Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: and isnt the devila nd what not a good guy? Tanner says: nope the devil is the bad guy. according to the bible he is an angel that lost his way and turned against god Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: ya but he punishes people in hell... he punishes them because they did really bad things... Tanner says: nope. because Jesus died for us, he takes away our sins and allows all who believe to pass on to heaven Tanner says: John 3:16 - for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life Tanner says: that's pretty much it. no fine print. everyone sins, and in the eyes of got there is no it's bad or it's not that bad. it's all the same and the punishment is all the same Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: the bible dosnt really make sence to me. its been translated through so many languages over millions of years that by now it just dosnt work. Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: but then everyone goes to heaven Tanner says: all who believe go to heaven Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: thats dosnt work either. there has to be balance and what is the devil going to do? sit on his ass? Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: so a mass murderur will go to heaven if he bileaves Tanner says: he takes car of the 89% of the population of earth who isn't christian Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: hmmmmm..... Tanner says: in the hands of God, mass murder's punishment is death, and stealing a pop from 7-11 has a punishment of death Tanner says: doesn't make much sense to us, but that's how faith works Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: but if i dont bileave then i wont go to heaven... is that to say that i just wont exsist after death or what? Tanner says: nope basically it's to hell with ya. literally Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: really? but thats not very nice. if i dont bileave in him then.... well.... i sapose bileaveing in him is kinda like thanking him and saying " i know your helping out and i trust in you" Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: hmmmm, Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: i just dont know. when i was little i bileaved in him Tanner says: it's not something that i found just black & white. i don't believe all the stories in the bible, i think of those more as man's attempts to understand their faith. but i believe in the basics: God created everything, if you believe you go to heaven, if you don't believe you go to hell Tanner says: it's something that's different for everyone Tanner says: would you be interested in coming with me to church on sunday? PD would be able to answer these questions way better than me when it comes to chruch traditions and practices Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: ill try. i cant make any promisses. i dont care weather or not i bileave. i just want to get this remotly sorted out. Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: PD? Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: whats that Tanner says: Pastor Dawn Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: oh. Tanner says: female pastor, very accepting of stuff. she likes DaVinci code & got along great with Sara & Adrienne Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: thats good. is she mean at all? or will she get offended bt my questions? Tanner says: nope Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: well thats good. Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: maybe i will. Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: how long is it? Tanner says: religion is understood differently by everyone, and she's one of the few that accually get that Tanner says: an hour ish. depends on whether there's communion Tanner says: that ads about 15 mins Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: whats that Tanner says: meal of bread & wine/grape juice to represent the blood and body of christ being shared with the congregation (people at the church) Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: dose everyone ahve to do it? Tanner says: nope Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: or just sertain people? Tanner says: everyone can, but you don't have to if you don't want to Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: i dont think i will. i feel awkward Tanner says: we don't have that every time, but you can just decide when you get there i guess Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: i ushually oartisipate in a fshion that wont entiraly exclude me but i dont like to go totally for it, i feel its not my plave an di feel unwanted. like walking into a grave yard. Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: place* Tanner says: this is a very welcoming group. as long as you are respectful and not doing cartwheels in the isles or something during the service, you'll fit in great. you might want to go with a wee bit more conservative clothing, but that would just be for a good first impression with the old people Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: hahah dont worry. there is a time and place for everything. whats wrong Tanner? you dont like my fishnets? lmao. kidding Tanner says: lol Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: well i sapose i should get going. ill try calling or talk to you befor and tell you if i can or not. Ashley <3 Silly boy - my love is conditional to you. says: Later Days!